The Pointer Sisters deserve more respect than they got. They certainly deserve to be in the legends bracket, but I'm going with the Pretenders - much more my style of music. I also have a soft spot because Chrissy Hynde grew up in the Akron area. Later in the late 2000's she opened a fantastic restaurant in vegan downtown Akron called Vegiterranean (which sadly shut down years ago). There was even some Pretenders paraphernalia in the decor and she performed there a couple of times!
Listen to The Kinks. There is a direct line from The Kinks to The Pretenders. At least two of their singles were Kinks covers (Stop Your Sobbing being the most well known)
She loved The Kinks so much she hooked up with Ray Davies and had a kid with him.
Pointer Sisters would be more the victim of misogyny than sexism. The Pretender are all guys with a female lead singer. Jann Wenner is a well known sexist piece of shit and he controlled that place for so long. Bands with female leads would get in but not all-female bands or women solo unless they were so big it was undeniable. But look how long the Go-Gos were denied.
But I hate talking about the Hall like it is a serious thing. It's dumb and irrelevant. Even the people who started it signaled it's irrelevancy by putting it in Cleveland.
Hey, I was absolutely gung-ho about moving to Cleveland when my wife was being courted to work there. (Getting away from the cesspool that is Boston was a factor in that gung-ho attitude) I think it's lovely. But if the Hall people actually wanted it to be a real thing they would have put it someplace with actual tourism.
I decided to look at halls of fame just now, And they are almost all where the thing they celebrate started, which can't be great for their numbers, either.
The Baseball HoF is kinda nowhere (Cooperstown, NY), but it makes its own tourism (200k visitors), I guess? Same with basketball (Springfield, MA--under 200k) and football (Canton, OH--210k). Hockey HoF is actually in a city now and gets more people (Toronto--300k).
The RRHoF in CLE gets around 600k visitors per year, which is double the best sports HoF. Would it get a million in New York or LA? Definitely. But I was actually pleasantly surprised at those numbers!
Not disagreeing, it probably didn't need to exist. But since it does, they have made it into a pretty cool place, all things considered.
And Wenner does appear to be an asshole of the highest order.
Just want to point out that there was actually an enormous campaign in 1985 that brought the Rock hall of fame to Cleveland. It started with a USA Today poll that asked Americans where the hall should be. Surprisingly, most voted for it to be in Cleveland over places like New York. I was one of those votes 😁. https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/704
Yeah, the sports halls are terribly placed too, except for hockey. And the baseball one is especially stupid since that town has zero to do with the history of baseball. It's all based on a lie. If the baseball HOF was in NYC (which is historically significant to the creation of the game) they would have way more visitors. I've always wanted to go there, but it's a pain in the ass to get to.
The summer I moved from GA to suburban Chicago (far suburbs) between junior and senior year (thanks mom, high school didn't suck enough already) I got a job in the only video store in town, probably the only one for a pretty wide area.ayne not as cool as a record store job, but a close second. All the other high school kids in town were at the fast food places of grocery stores.
It was so awesome. We had VHS and Beta, and eventually Nintendo cartridges. And I knew every single person in town who rented porn. (It was a lot)
Kept that job pretty much through the summer after graduation.
Pretty close. I would put art house movies I loved on the new releases shelf to get them rented out more. I made a lot of suburbanites take home Fandango.
The Pointer Sisters deserve more respect than they got. They certainly deserve to be in the legends bracket, but I'm going with the Pretenders - much more my style of music. I also have a soft spot because Chrissy Hynde grew up in the Akron area. Later in the late 2000's she opened a fantastic restaurant in vegan downtown Akron called Vegiterranean (which sadly shut down years ago). There was even some Pretenders paraphernalia in the decor and she performed there a couple of times!
Love this! "Vegiterranean" is a great fucking name for a restaurant.
And the Akron connection can't be denied!
As to The Pretenders influences...
Listen to The Kinks. There is a direct line from The Kinks to The Pretenders. At least two of their singles were Kinks covers (Stop Your Sobbing being the most well known)
She loved The Kinks so much she hooked up with Ray Davies and had a kid with him.
I was waiting for my Deni ‘TOID! Now THAT’s an influence! 😂
Wow. I specifically asked you not to mention our discussion of Journey in public because it makes me look like a petty asshole. Thanks.
Keith, I have some news for you. Any girl that has you take your shirt off and writes on you wants you to make a move.
"End it all with Tylenol." A joke for years after it happened.
Chrissie Hynde is the shit.
hahaha oh wow so much to address here!
1. OOPS! Did we make you seem bad? I just thought it was funny and also felt dumb that I was oblivious to your superfandom! Sorry !
2. Yeah, I obviously didn't get that at the time, but it makes sense NOW! Hahaha I am a moron!
3. I never heard "End it all with Tylenol"! Such dark humor! 💊 ☠️
4. Chrissie is the most awesome! 🤩
--Keith
The first comment was actually addressed to my brother. You’re off the hook. Him not so much. Lolol
Pointer Sisters would be more the victim of misogyny than sexism. The Pretender are all guys with a female lead singer. Jann Wenner is a well known sexist piece of shit and he controlled that place for so long. Bands with female leads would get in but not all-female bands or women solo unless they were so big it was undeniable. But look how long the Go-Gos were denied.
But I hate talking about the Hall like it is a serious thing. It's dumb and irrelevant. Even the people who started it signaled it's irrelevancy by putting it in Cleveland.
Dude! You are posting this to be seen by a large group of NE Ohioans. Put some fucking respect on the CLE.
Hey, I was absolutely gung-ho about moving to Cleveland when my wife was being courted to work there. (Getting away from the cesspool that is Boston was a factor in that gung-ho attitude) I think it's lovely. But if the Hall people actually wanted it to be a real thing they would have put it someplace with actual tourism.
I decided to look at halls of fame just now, And they are almost all where the thing they celebrate started, which can't be great for their numbers, either.
The Baseball HoF is kinda nowhere (Cooperstown, NY), but it makes its own tourism (200k visitors), I guess? Same with basketball (Springfield, MA--under 200k) and football (Canton, OH--210k). Hockey HoF is actually in a city now and gets more people (Toronto--300k).
The RRHoF in CLE gets around 600k visitors per year, which is double the best sports HoF. Would it get a million in New York or LA? Definitely. But I was actually pleasantly surprised at those numbers!
Not disagreeing, it probably didn't need to exist. But since it does, they have made it into a pretty cool place, all things considered.
And Wenner does appear to be an asshole of the highest order.
--K
Just want to point out that there was actually an enormous campaign in 1985 that brought the Rock hall of fame to Cleveland. It started with a USA Today poll that asked Americans where the hall should be. Surprisingly, most voted for it to be in Cleveland over places like New York. I was one of those votes 😁. https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/704
I didn't remember this! So the chance existed to put it in NYC, and it lost? Wow! I did not know this (or at least didn't remember it)!
Yeah, the sports halls are terribly placed too, except for hockey. And the baseball one is especially stupid since that town has zero to do with the history of baseball. It's all based on a lie. If the baseball HOF was in NYC (which is historically significant to the creation of the game) they would have way more visitors. I've always wanted to go there, but it's a pain in the ass to get to.
I really hope Megan listens to this episode so she can hear Joe refer to her as his current wife.
I believe it was a joke that Megan's dad used to say about Megan's mom.
I definitely caught that in person it was a joke, didn't want to interrupt you to point out it was a good one! 😂
Oh man, 80s video stores.
The summer I moved from GA to suburban Chicago (far suburbs) between junior and senior year (thanks mom, high school didn't suck enough already) I got a job in the only video store in town, probably the only one for a pretty wide area.ayne not as cool as a record store job, but a close second. All the other high school kids in town were at the fast food places of grocery stores.
It was so awesome. We had VHS and Beta, and eventually Nintendo cartridges. And I knew every single person in town who rented porn. (It was a lot)
Kept that job pretty much through the summer after graduation.
I love picturing you telling people, "That movie sucks, bro. Here, take this copy of 'Das Boot.'"
Pretty close. I would put art house movies I loved on the new releases shelf to get them rented out more. I made a lot of suburbanites take home Fandango.
So, you were living Clerks?
Well, except there were actual adults/bosses around.
I imagine you would give off real “Jack Black in High Fidelity” vibes.
That's exactly the thing I couldn't quite put my finger on. I was still stuck on Clerks! 👏
What kind of a show is this? We need to listen to Dana's side of the story! The whole body painting situation is sitcom material at its finest!
Love Chrissie H, she opened for Phil Collins in Córdoba a couple of years ago but didn´t get to see her. And just a month ago, she and The Pretenders rocked it at Buenos Aires, so they are still relevant and able to pack arenas everywhere: https://www.pagina12.com.ar/826194-pretenders-en-vivo-canciones-para-enganar-al-tiempo